Sanford, FL—The shooting and mass demonstrations connected with the self-defense shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman left us all with some real lessons.The short of it is the importance of avoiding conflict and should you have to employ deadly force avoid calling 911 or giving any cooperation with police.
George Zimmerman volunteered to be a Block Watch busybody. Unfortunately many neighborhoods are loaded with dangerous predators and block watches have become a reality. That’s especially true in jurisdictions that have been dumping prisoners from prisons and that have undermanned police departments. Confine any watch activities to protecting your own home, family and close friends.
Calling 911 has become an exercise in futility because they are slow to answer the phone, those untrained civilians give loads of bad advice and the cops can never arrive in time to prevent rapes, robberies or murders. They can however arrange for a cleanup of a bloody mess and to remove the dead and wounded from the scene.
Be aware of your surroundings and the behavior of others around you, your car or home. Be prepared with sufficient training, weapons and ammunition needed to face multiple armed criminals. Criminals seldom work alone.
If you are the subject of intimidation, bullying or attack respond as your life depends on it because it does. Use your weapon to end the assault and in all but a few scenarios the cowardly criminals will flee without you having to fire a shot.
If on the other hand you fire shots do so with accuracy and a sufficient number of shots to stop the attack cold. Instant one-shot stops are rare except on television.
Once you shoot, it’s time to scoot! Get the Hell away from the danger, accomplices and friends of the person/s you’ve shot.
In Zimmerman’s case, Martin was an athletic six-foot-two-inch tall football player that had him on his back pounding on him. Martin got what he deserved.
You’ve got an absolute Constitutional right not to incriminate yourself. That means you cannot be forced to report to 911 on yourself! You should always as a matter of sound legal advice not to communicate with the police beyond asking them for a lawyer. Save the, “I was in fear of my life” confession for the courtroom and chances are you’ll never see a courtroom.
George Zimmerman should have left the do-gooder block watch duties to anyone else. If that failed he should have resorted to the principal of, shoot, scoot and keep your mouth shut. Doing the Block Watch duties placed Zimmerman in harms way with both criminals and 911 operators.
Today Zimmerman is now the target of a massive racially motivated hate campaign by mobs all over this nation. Zimmerman is now in danger wherever he goes since his published picture and name has given made him as recognizable as any celebrity. Zimmerman has a price on his head and a racist U.S. Attorney General that will do everything possible to persecute him. Zimmerman probably will not survive what’s in store for him.
Someone please tell me the value of cooperating with police under these circumstances. Every 911 call Zimmerman ever made will now be used against him.
Zimmerman’s unpaid Block Watch gig was a really stupid an idea. Always leave police work to the cops.
So when you forced to defend yourself or family the words of the day are SHOOT and SCOOT!
Comments
Why aren’t NBPP members arrested for threatening Zimmerman and putting up wanted posters?
Spike Lee sends multiple “tweets” with George Zimmerman’s home address.
...and I'm a retired cop.
For JUST that reason, I've stopped carrying my Glock and started carrying my revolver. No brass on the ground...
...and I'm a retired cop.
March 26, 2012 8:04 AM
carry two.
snubbies with +P, pachmyer grips and a pair of speed loaders.
Do blacks get a free pass when it comes to threatening someone?
Why aren’t NBPP members arrested for threatening Zimmerman and putting up wanted posters?
Spike Lee sends multiple “tweets” with George Zimmerman’s home address.
March 25, 2012 9:55 PM
Yes
Eric Holder is AG thats why.
Spike Lee is a known racist.
Also, leaving the scene of a shooting is about the dumbest advice you could possible give. Even if your an ex cop, if they catch you on a survailence camera or something and you left the scene, you're going to be spending a long time in jail. Better idea is to have a lawyer's number in your wallet, and let him know you carry and might need to call him some night for help. Only call him after you call 911 and try to render first aid to the person you shot though, or they will hold that against you. If you go into it with a punk attitude like some people on this list are saying, you might end up a criminal yourself and never able to carry a weapon again!
#3. He is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, judged by his peers or he admits guilt. He is NOT judged by the media, by rabid people spouting hatred or any other group.
If I choose to follow you from a distance, call the police on my cellphone, and do not attempt to personally contact or detain you..
you have no legal right to do ANYTHING about it. Martin had no grounds to approach or attack Zimmerman for simply walking in his vicinity, watching him and calling the police.
"Stalking" is a nonsense word, that really means nothing unless the act is taking place outside a private home or residence. When you are in a public walkway or street, someone watching you and calling the police about you is not "Stalking".
You can sue them later, civilly, but you cannot attack them physically.
If you do attack them physically, then they can use force to defend themselves. Every indication is that this is what took place.
If George Zimmermans name had been Paco Gonzalez no one would have ever heard of this case at all.. This is a dispute between a negro and a brown man, that a deceptive propaganda media has deliberately pumped into a vehicle about 'white' people, none of whom were involved in this dispute.
There is nothing I've seen reported that leads me to believe anything except that Martin was killed. I don't know if murdered. The videos tell me nothing. A funeral director isn't forensics and Obama wasn't there but neither were you or I.
Speculation on either side of it is dangerous.
A "fair trial"? How about if Zimmerman were guilty and later released on appeal because as you say "how can he get a fair trial",how could you get a proper outcome to stick? Obama is a lawyer why would he do that; stick his nose in it? He's not stupid, so it must be a political distraction to cover up something else. Perhaps take our minds off of healthcare?
If anything, it should serve as a case in point of the growing tension between african-americans and latino americans. Instead, it has become 'hate whitey' hour. Very odd. I don't understand americans at all.
African-Americans will seek any excuse to blame anything at all on white people. Even if the shooter was Hispanic. That's all you need to understand African-Americans. Understanding other Americans is even easier--they just want to live apart from African-Americans. We don't wish them harm, we just want to live somewhere else.
It's good that someone is pointing out that the man is Latino and "why the color hate?" It's another thing to say "African Americans are hating whites" even if true because the problem or the lie is stirred or started to make sides to war.
Wake up! In general people can just be plain hateful period. Race and color do not discriminate even against their own community or culture. I'm Irish white looking (also Hispanic but it doesn't show)but I've been hurt far more by white people because there are just more white people in my world; proportionally no difference to other races outside of my world as to mischief caused me personally.
But all of us have been hurt by people exerting unlawful power whether by the filthy rich money makers or their court systems, which you allow them to use against us after they either made the problems worse or started new problems.
Wake up! Didn't the press and Obama make this a racial issue? They've made it stick as a "white black" issue. Just like the man said here, "He's Latino". Obama is no more a representation of common people of color then I am a representation of Latinos.
Every problem experienced has not been started even by mischief makers, but the mischief makers sure know how to make you feel like someone did. "There's an all day sucker born every day."
I would also add the Obama is not the judge either.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/022046.html
(See Roger G.'s comment at end.)
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
Yet the transcript of that portion of the call reads as follows:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
With obvious malicious intent, NBC turned Zimmerman into a racist. The rest of the major news media have joined the Zimmerman lynch mob. See "Washington Post Distorts Trayvon Martin News" at http://www.dcdave.com/article5/120413.htm .
If the police show up to question you, you're within your rights to tell them to get off your property. If they arrest you, keep quiet except to ask for a lawyer.
I say deliberate miss direction.
"shoot, scoot and mute"?
"Understanding other Americans is even easier--they just want to live apart from African-Americans."
You are going to have to speak just for yourself. You CANNOT speak for me.
I will happily live in voluntary association and cooperation with anyone who is willing to live by non-aggression and mind their own business.
And that includes any sentient being anywhere in the universe. It also includes those who defend themselves and go the extra mile to defend their neighbors.
I don't know if Mr. Zimmerman made mistakes, or even if he is guilty of murder... and neither does anyone else right now. I pray he can get a fair trial and that ALL of the bigots and fear mongers will get out of the picture.
I own my life, and I am the only one responsible for it and my safety. That's why I carry a gun.
-mike