tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19929098.post712878484156189312..comments2024-03-23T08:54:02.530-07:00Comments on CRIME, GUNS, AND VIDEOTAPE: Official Chicago Police Star Is On Its Way OutPaul Huebl Crimefile Newshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07841397705805774698noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19929098.post-20034037924370176942012-03-18T22:45:39.990-07:002012-03-18T22:45:39.990-07:00It's wasn't Bradford W. it was sgt Ray G o...It's wasn't Bradford W. it was sgt Ray G of personel who was the new star weenie. I for one carry an old style button with my retired card as the new ones look like an impersonator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19929098.post-88749256108421143842011-11-26T01:50:19.152-08:002011-11-26T01:50:19.152-08:00TO "IT'S NOT ALL REAL"
First of all...TO "IT'S NOT ALL REAL"<br /><br />First of all I, nor any other Lieutenant or Captain I know was consulted regarding the new star design. So, we didn't beef about the idea of putting balls on the Sergeants stars. Although, I would have objected, in line with your "easy recognition" argument. Although, that is a ridiculous argument considering the old design was actually unique to Chicago and recognized the world over. Unlike the new design which is in use with minor variations by dozens of departments. Blackington's makes so many versions of the new star we might as well be wearing mall security star.<br /><br />The serial number feature is complete BS as well. No one who has lost a star since the introduction of this new design has been able get a replacement star with the same number. So tell me, who the hell can I call to get this POS star replaced. I'll gladly pay the $22 you claim. <br /><br />We could have just reissued the 195 design with the serial number feature on the back and served the exact same purpose.<br /><br />Bottom line is the new stars look like crap, don't hold up worth a damn, regardless of how you "care" for them and still result in you having to get a new number, not just when you lose one but even if it gets broken or damaged. <br /><br />It was purely a vanity move by some non-com ouse mouse hiding in an office at HQ who wanted to leave his mark. My money is on Brad. In fact "It's not all real" sounds quite a bit like Brad. If it is please give it up already. Nobody is buying your crap. <br /><br />Funny that no one has ever had the balls to admit to being responsible for this abortion. <br /><br />Most likely someone also got a little financial benefit after getting the department to piss away a load of money on this fiasco <br /><br />By the way, the old design is copyrighted. Just try getting a copy made of one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19929098.post-56520680326427735292011-04-13T06:48:56.674-07:002011-04-13T06:48:56.674-07:00Hello gang. I am currently still a Chicago Patrol...Hello gang. I am currently still a Chicago Patrolman. Here's the latest from HQ. My best buddy lost his star while on vacation out of state. He made a report out there, then went to H.Q. to get another star. The dept. issued him another number of eing CPD course. So, as far as the serial number on the back of the new stars, which read, 'CPD-1' meaning it is the first issue, original star. It was reported to the rank & file, that if you lost ur button it would be entered into the L.E.A.D.S. database as lost / missing. Then the officer was to get another star with the number on the back reading 'CPD-2'. This meant the 1st star was lost or destroyed and the officer who had it was issued the no#2 star. This way, if anyone came in conatct with a clow w/o a CPD I.D. card, the star number was to be 'run' and would come up lost or stolen. Well, that was a lie! I know, the CPD always tells the troops nothing but the truth. This is why my friend was issued another entirely different star number and not his reg, no#1 star marked, 'CPD-2'. Now here's the real truth. Some person found my buddies star and mailed it back to CPD. My partner was called back to HQ. He gets there and was told his original button was located and was going to be re-issued to him. So, expecting to receive his older new star with half the letters and numbers missing, was issued a BRAND NEW star, same number, but on the back where it was to read 'CPD-2', on the back it reads 'CPD-1'. It was a new star. The woman at HQ said the entire dept. will be issued these brand new stars, all with 'CPD-1' on the back side. Furthermore, he was told Blackington made good and made all new stars with the proper clear-coat over the lettes & numbers so they will not fall out again. The new stars are to be passed out soon, this year. This was told to me less than 2 weeks ago and is true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19929098.post-30173488965075698742010-11-17T19:48:36.809-08:002010-11-17T19:48:36.809-08:00I just hope that they don't let the POS Weasel...I just hope that they don't let the POS Weasel have any say as to the design .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19929098.post-84888215239303797822010-11-17T19:20:40.259-08:002010-11-17T19:20:40.259-08:00Thanks for that history. Many of the changes to t...Thanks for that history. Many of the changes to the old star like the black enamel insert on Detective stars were done in the 1980s.<br /><br />Letting civilian investigators from the old OPS and city hall use the same star design was a horrible idea. <br /><br />That new design cannot be manufactured to stand up to the normal wear and tear. They are going to have to change that somewhat ugly design sometime anyway.<br /><br />If I was the department dictator uniformed female officers not working patrol would be in the old policewoman uniform.<br /><br />I’d order all officers dark blue shirts and ditch the baseball caps and cargo pants to the landfill. The regulation trademark field cap would be worn by all patrol officers. The old practice of three day suspensions for not wearing the caps outdoors would end out side of traffic stops. <br /><br />Of course that hideously ugly winter cap with the ear flaps is needed for Chicago’s brutal winters. <br /><br />Today the officers in most district roll calls look like a train wreck. <br /><br />What ever happened to the signs on department mirrors asking, “Does your appearance command respect?”<br /><br />I remember the old days when of the homicide dicks used to wear the most expensive suits they could. The fabulous fedoras and pinky rigs were the rage.<br /><br />The dicks would wiggle their pinky with the ring to the uniformed boys to let them know they were the police instead of wearing or showing their stars.Paul Huebl Crimefile Newshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07841397705805774698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19929098.post-25581544757747055832010-11-17T11:00:41.052-08:002010-11-17T11:00:41.052-08:00I was privvy to some of the decisions made regardi...I was privvy to some of the decisions made regarding our new design.<br /><br />First of all, the design was changed because almost 5000 numbers were out of service. A lost shield or star meant that number could not be used again. By totally redesigning the star/shield, all these numbers could be brought back on line. Another major factor was the investigator star the Department of Revenue used. It was almost a mirrored copy of the police star, and instead of saying "Chicago Police" it said "City of Chicago". I had stopped a guy once who flashed his badge, but when I asked for an ID card, he didn't show a PD ID, he showed a City ID. That's when I said "WTF" to myself and inquired, finding out the city allowed DOR to copy our design. The new design is copywrited and may not be utilized by any other city department.<br /><br />The actual design of the star went through many changes. The color bands were based upon traditional colors used for rank. Black for P.O. and Detective because of the black banner used on the Detective star when the 20000 series was made. Blue for Sergeants because that is the color of the tassel on their ceremonial batons; red for Lieutenants and Captains as their tassels are red on the ceremonial baton.<br /><br />Another matter was the fact the new design could be easily read from a distance. The '55' design could not, but from 20 feet away a person can clearly see "Chicago Police" and "Police Officer, Detective, Sergeant, etc" without straining. The mind set here was easy recognition.<br /><br />Finally, the original plan called for 'balls' on the points for all supervisors. As you may already know, Lieutenants and Captains have tiny balls (No joke intended) on the points of their stars and this was to be extended to Sergeants also, but the Lieutenants and Captains beefed so it was dropped. <br /><br />Another point that sucks is the original intent was to do away with star numbers on shields. Detectives, Sergeants, Lieutenants and Captains do not have such shields and if they lose one, no biggie. But the powers in charge could not let such a thing happen to the lowly Police Officer, so the number on the shield remains.<br /><br />The new stars have serial numbers which mean a lost star doesn't necessarily have to go out of service, or one that is damaged beyond repair can be replaced with an identical number, it will just have a new serial number.<br /><br />Finally, there is no plan to redesign the star, it will just be of higher quality and hopefully enamel inserts, numbers and the like won't pop out. They should hold up better.<br /><br />A big problem though with why some, and I say some, stars get beaten up is the way they are cared for, or more likely, not cared for. Leaving the star on a belt clip inside your pocket and bouncing around with the change, knife, keys etc, beats the hell out of the stars. But if your star gets too beaten up, you can pay the $22 and get a new one.<br /><br />Hope that helps. For the record, I like your idea best, but they won't change it.It's Not All Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073783135894732527noreply@blogger.com